Wasanelder Once

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  God Cannot Lie, But God's Organization Can?

  by AmABeliever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the recently leaked bethel training videos, both speakers state that inappropriate flirting really amounts to lying, as if a person is misrepresenting either his interest or availability to another person romantically.. we are reminded that the bible is very plain in its expressions on lying such as proverbs 12:22 which states it is detestable to god.

  so with the example given here, we must have a very high standard in separating what is truthful from what is not.. with that being the case, it shocks me that bethel would produce a video presented to all in attendance at the 2017 regional convention regarding the early 1970's, essentially rewriting history as to what actually happened.. is misrepresenting your past and misleading millions of followers not a much more extreme case of lying from those who claim to reject any form of lying no matter how small, such as flirting?

  would anyone like to add more examples to this thread?.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Telling the R&F they joined the U.N. as an NGO to get a library card. Freakin liars.
  
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  Watchtower Teachings That Don't Make Sense

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are a number of things that don't make sense to me about your religion.

  a. blood prohibitions: .

  - plasma...when all components of plasma are acceptable to the society.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I always scratched my head when they said, "be careful not to stumble anyone because their blood will be on you" while at the same time telling us that "no one can stumble you if you are righteously inclined" and "they went out because they were not of our sort". How the hell did they get in? Such duplicity.
  
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  Does praying really matter? Where is the evidence?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matthew 7:7 jesus says: ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

  for every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.

  or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?

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  Wasanelder Once

  Republicans think so.

  
  
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  Find Family Happiness ... NOT!

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the other day my wife and i were in sonoma.

  we were just walking around enjoying the pleasant afternoon in the quaint, old downtown area when i saw two jw women standing by their “witnessing cart.” .

  normally, i just ignore them whenever i see jws standing by a cart, but i gotta admit it: this time it really bugged me because of the title on the cart: find family happiness.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Well, you spoke your heart. It may not have been a reasoned expression but it was authentic. I'm sure they won't give it more than the crazy apostate consideration, but the people around heard it as well. Perhaps that is the saving grace in this situation. The innocent people around may have been adequately forewarned. Don't kick yourself over it JP. I'm sure your rage will find its place and your expressions won't be so volatile in the future.
  
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  Why do (did) the majority of the general population see the JWS is a decisive fraud ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws /ibsa have been going door to door now for over 100 years in many lands and countries, with numerous pieces of supporting literature counting in the millions.. you would think after all of the publicizing that the jws faith would have grown leaps and bounds but to date the jws has only 8 million following adherents.. other christian based faiths have grown vastly more but never publicly proselytized their faith to the extent the jws have... my basic concise guess is that they see this organization as a bit of commercialized fraud, orchestrated by a religious publishing house namely the watchtower corporation, trying to get people to purchase and read the wts's literature.. and yes the wts did place a set price on its literature including yearly subscriptions.

  was it just too obvious ?.

  did the wts not think that many people who they called on were from even bigger and older established christian faiths but didn't say or preach what the wts was preaching in their apparent version of the gospel ?.

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  Hey Fink, don't over think it. The majority of people have no fixed opinion based on such reasoning. Just look at how JW's are portrayed in popular culture. They are portrayed as kooks, rubes and zealots. No one cares about the money anymore because they don't ask for any. Now the carts are full of free junk. Hell, they don't talk to anyone anymore either. In the movies they were once the butt of jokes as crazy people, remember this?

  coneheads
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  Eldub that get stuck on a word or phrase!

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  eldub that get stuck on a word!.

  over the years i have been around a few, that if a "big" or "unusual" word or phrase is used at the assembly or by a co/do, to stress a point.

  then eldub "somebody" will use it at every meeting, if they can find a way to squeeze it into a part or commit.. most of them get over it after a few meetings.

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  Wasanelder Once

  "Brochures" became "bulshures."

  "God will sustain" became "God will substain you, all through the pioneer meeting."

  Morons.
  
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  The Red Headed League

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sitting here watching my pioneering wife get service time ‘writing letters’ to not-at-homes.

  she has a long list of names and addressees where the jws in field service never got anyone home.

  the letter is simply a word for word copy, handwritten on note paper, then sent in the usmail.

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  I had a cousin mention to me that someone wrote to her. She thought it was nice. They did the same thing last year she said. Then I informed her of how they keep time and that's why someone wrote to her. She responded, "It figures". She wasn't so impressed any longer. Snap!
  
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  Give Love to Receive Love ???

  by IMHO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please help me understand this.

  over the years i have seen and have heard of many who have changed congregation due to the 'lack of love' shown in their own.

  you then hear many condemning such ones as 'having a problem' and 'taking their problems with them'.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Hello IMHO. Though I agree that there is a lack of expressed love in the congregation but I think you may be right, it may be you. Now don't get excited. I am saying that as a person who is seeking psychiatric help you must be exhibiting some social symptoms which people pick up on and then avoid. Its odd but even the nicest people avoid "sick" people. If you are withdrawn you will attract only the most compassionate people. These people only help so long before they become overwhelmed by their efforts for so many. They give up and you find their interest was more for self assurance that they are not depressed. Do not give up. There are people in between the judgemental and the pitying thespians. In life you are doing well to find one true friend, in or out of the KH. Sometimes its your mate if you're lucky. Just keep trying to be who you are, a person trying to lessen anxiety and confront the world with more confidence. All the best!
  
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  First girlfriend-first Kiss

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first girlfriend first kiss.

  the first girl i took notice of in any real sense of "notice" was a brunette named robbie.. .

  i was in first grade, so i must have been six-years-old.. .

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  Wasanelder Once

  How did this script for the Andy Griffith show get on here?
  
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  Did you become more antisocial after waking up?

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been shy my whole life, but during my teenage years and early 20s i managed to be more comfortable socializing and made many friends in different parts of my country (jws of course).

  that was before i woke up, because i saw myself being a jw for the rest of my life and thus i made an effort to meet new jw friends.

  however, after i woke up, i lost interest in meeting new people because knowing that when i leave they will be gone... feels like a total waste of time and energy.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I was never shy so, no.